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#1 Posted 18 February 2012 - 07:04 PM By franzford

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Im not going to make a DH to star cuz im not usely the ranger type. im really interested in this Demon hunter class tho and I plan to use her alot too. so here's what I was thinking for a build

http://us.battle.net...bbYbZZ  -  edit 10/03/12 (skill change and rune messed it up)

point is too keep shadow power up as much as possible and have smoke screen ready often. so mutly to regen discipline and the dis skill to regen hatred fast to spam mutly alot...so a kinda of synergy betew the both resource. Think I can pull it off? any sugestion is welcome

Edited by franzford, 10 March 2012 - 07:25 PM.

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#2 Posted 19 February 2012 - 12:42 AM By Pilafi

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Well, nice and solid build i can recommend 2 things.With some quick math i did, i believe that because of the hatred generator runes,it is possible to use only hatred spenders.Smoke screen adds 60 hatred in 2 secs and costs 15 discipline. 60 hatred=4 multishots that add 24 discipline with the hatred also from the bat and Shadow power its obvious that you can spam multishot   endlessly and i am positive that you can use cluster arrow also not spamming it but often. Also i dont like a lot the brooding pasive(maybe it will be needed in higher difficulties). So you could abort the entangling shot skill but well u need a slow of course so i recommend use caltrops + crimson rune .You have your slow and dmg  52 skill dmg* 6 seconds . For a different passive i would use cull of the weak you have your aoe slow and 20% more dmg is a lot.

http://us.battle.net...PTiU!caU!ZaZbcZ

What do you think?

Edited by Pilafi, 19 February 2012 - 12:43 AM.


#3 Posted 19 February 2012 - 02:30 AM By franzford

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I'm loving your idea. Actuly I wanted the entangle to slow but its only 2 sec and that had me a bit worry, whit the trap its much better and im glad you seam to like. the passive was mostly to heal exactly for later difficulty so I might keep it and go whit cull the weak for normal and maybe nightmare.

thank you for the great feed back.
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#4 Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:20 PM By Angry Amadeus

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Doesnt entangle do big damage, too?

#5 Posted 19 February 2012 - 09:03 PM By franzford

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Well that idea whit caltrop would be much stronger since it slow and gain +20% damage from passive whit hte rune +56% Tic damage, deffinetly going whit Pilafi idea and ditching entangle.
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#6 Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:58 PM By KylieMinogue

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View PostAngry Amadeus, on 19 February 2012 - 08:20 PM, said:

Doesnt entangle do big damage, too?

it does if you juice it with cull the weak :)

#7 Posted 20 February 2012 - 02:14 AM By muser11

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http://us.battle.net...PTkU!VXU!cZZcYa

i made some changes..of course I accept your build but I suggest something different.
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#8 Posted 20 February 2012 - 02:16 AM By Batman

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View PostPilafi, on 19 February 2012 - 12:42 AM, said:

Well, nice and solid build i can recommend 2 things.With some quick math i did, i believe that because of the hatred generator runes,it is possible to use only hatred spenders.Smoke screen adds 60 hatred in 2 secs and costs 15 discipline. 60 hatred=4 multishots that add 24 discipline with the hatred also from the bat and Shadow power its obvious that you can spam multishot   endlessly and i am positive that you can use cluster arrow also not spamming it but often. Also i dont like a lot the brooding pasive(maybe it will be needed in higher difficulties). So you could abort the entangling shot skill but well u need a slow of course so i recommend use caltrops + crimson rune .You have your slow and dmg  52 skill dmg* 6 seconds . For a different passive i would use cull of the weak you have your aoe slow and 20% more dmg is a lot.

http://us.battle.net...PTiU!caU!ZaZbcZ

What do you think?
Do you do character builds often? You seem like a wiz at it. Maybe you could help me with my WD build?

#9 Posted 20 February 2012 - 02:41 AM By franzford

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View Postmuser11, on 20 February 2012 - 02:14 AM, said:

http://us.battle.net...PTkU!VXU!cZZcYa

i made some changes..of course I accept your build but I suggest something different.
I like the effect of indigo preparation whit the Night stalker passive suggestion. So I made a few changes in return to my liking

http://us.battle.net...ldkU!hXU!YbacYa

The point is to exploit the effect of night stalker so I liked sharp shooter better and rappid fire to maximize the crit chance. Vault for the quick get away and some shoot while your vaulting for chances to crit, I like it better then backflip since you can control it.
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#10 Posted 20 February 2012 - 02:56 AM By muser11

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View Postfranzford, on 20 February 2012 - 02:41 AM, said:

I like the effect of indigo preparation whit the Night stalker passive suggestion. So I made a few changes in return to my liking

http://us.battle.net...ldkU!hXU!YbacYa

The point is to exploit the effect of night stalker so I liked sharp shooter better and rappid fire to maximize the crit chance. Vault for the quick get away and some shoot while your vaulting for chances to crit, I like it better then backflip since you can control it.

"I like it better then backflip since you can control it" . Hmm i agree but backflip is good if u play pvp if not this build is good :)
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#11 Posted 20 February 2012 - 03:21 AM By franzford

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wow that's true I conmpletely frogot to think about PvP builds, tnx for the reminder.
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#12 Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:21 AM By Kalzin

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It's too early to say if something is viable, but it could very well be :P

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#13 Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:23 AM By AlexRahs

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looks a good mix of damage output survivability and Crowd control, should be a solid build
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#14 Posted 20 February 2012 - 02:09 PM By Pilafi

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View PostBatman, on 20 February 2012 - 02:16 AM, said:

Do you do character builds often? You seem like a wiz at it. Maybe you could help me with my WD build?
Well, my main will be a demon hunter so i have done some research about his builds.I don't know meny things about WD but i would gladly try to help you.

View Postmuser11, on 20 February 2012 - 02:56 AM, said:

"I like it better then backflip since you can control it" . Hmm i agree but backflip is good if u play pvp if not this build is good :D
Pvp builds will be totally different than pve, and i believe that franzfords build here is for pve.

#15 Posted 20 February 2012 - 06:38 PM By franzford

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ya it is for PvE I wasnt thinking anything like this for PvP but i liked the effect for PvP that be for later discusion.
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#16 Posted 23 February 2012 - 04:38 AM By Ham0uri

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its ok but there is some better abilitys

#17 Posted 23 February 2012 - 06:19 AM By franzford

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View PostHam0uri, on 23 February 2012 - 04:38 AM, said:

its ok but there is some better abilitys
very constructive thank you....

Edited by franzford, 23 February 2012 - 06:20 AM.

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#18 Posted 23 February 2012 - 06:37 AM By Ham0uri

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View Postfranzford, on 23 February 2012 - 06:19 AM, said:

very constructive thank you....
im sorry but i mean like cluster arrow you can have like rain of vengeance you could have strafe and stuff,
and imo instead of going smoke screen go vault. yea thats what i think atleast sorry for only saying that there were better abilitis before :S :D

#19 Posted 23 February 2012 - 07:16 AM By franzford

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okay I c but it woudlnt really be the same build at all something different completely. you see the point of cluster is that it high damage and I can spam it, while venge have a long CD for a build built around regen hatred very fast, so i can spam both my Hate spender. adn if i use vault I can't use the awesom +60hate in 2 sec rune for smoke which allso give me a huge speed boost while I kite toward slow traps.

Edited by franzford, 23 February 2012 - 07:19 AM.

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#20 Posted 23 February 2012 - 07:40 AM By Ham0uri

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View Postfranzford, on 23 February 2012 - 07:16 AM, said:

okay I c but it woudlnt really be the same build at all something different completely. you see the point of cluster is that it high damage and I can spam it, while venge have a long CD for a build built around regen hatred very fast, so i can spam both my Hate spender. adn if i use vault I can't use the awesom +60hate in 2 sec rune for smoke which allso give me a huge speed boost while I kite toward slow traps.
hehe okey i see but i was just giving some tips how i felt but i see your point now sorry :)