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#1 Posted 18 February 2012 - 08:18 PM By Batman

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Contrary to popular opinion I think the glass cannon passive is impractical. Once you're done with normal the difficulty of everything is 10+ times harder and things will kill you in an instant due to reduced armor and resistances. So its good up until go to the nightmare difficulty.

#2 Posted 18 February 2012 - 08:25 PM By TheLiquidSnake

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As the ablility says you will be a glass canon, so I hope everyone using this won't charge "stone threwer" :)

Be serious, who on this planet will ever using this not having a tank drew the attention for you?

I hope people playing SC won't have a opinion like " if I die I can ressurect, so why not just dying for mass damage", because it will destroy the groups :D

Even you won't find this anyway on NM+ or HC :D

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#3 Posted 18 February 2012 - 08:30 PM By Arisilde

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View PostBatman, on 18 February 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

Contrary to popular opinion I think the glass cannon passive is impractical. Once you're done with normal the difficulty of everything is 10+ times harder and things will kill you in an instant due to reduced armor and resistances. So its good up until go to the nightmare difficulty.
It can still be viable if you offset it with energy armor or diamond armor.
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#4 Posted 18 February 2012 - 08:34 PM By Batman

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View PostArisilde, on 18 February 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

It can still be viable if you offset it with energy armor or diamond armor.
Diamond armor lasts 3 seconds. 9 with a specific rune...

Edited by Batman, 18 February 2012 - 08:34 PM.


#5 Posted 18 February 2012 - 08:37 PM By Arisilde

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View PostBatman, on 18 February 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:

Diamond armor lasts 3 seconds. 9 with a specific rune...
True, so I guess pretend I only said energy armor, lol. Prismatic is a pretty fanatasic rune for it, especially in later difficulties where lots of mobs are enchanted.
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#6 Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:00 PM By franzford

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Well your a wizard not a tank there is certenatly a way to make it work later in game, general wiz tactic isnt to take damage at all but it happen more often then you would want so you have to think how to get out and CC the mobs, I dont think a 10% will hurt that much more you would still take massive amouth even whit regular armor.

Edit aftehr patch 13th - OKay now I agree drop to 15% not worth it

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#7 Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:05 AM By Zorro

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I think the glass cannon will work best if u play co-op.. After what I have read about it..

#8 Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:09 AM By iDIABL0

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View PostBatman, on 18 February 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

Contrary to popular opinion I think the glass cannon passive is impractical. Once you're done with normal the difficulty of everything is 10+ times harder and things will kill you in an instant due to reduced armor and resistances. So its good up until go to the nightmare difficulty.

I have to agree that If ure soloing the game in late game it would be less practical for survival, but in a party it would be a different story.

#9 Posted 19 February 2012 - 03:54 PM By Dwierst

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Well that depends. Hopefully most damage in the game will be avoidable with quick movement etc. So that if you are skilled enough glass cannon will be usefull

#10 Posted 19 February 2012 - 04:35 PM By Arisilde

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They nerfed glass cannon to 15% damage increase, so it's even less desirable now.
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#11 Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:41 PM By Tsukigomori

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Well its too bad they nerfed it but with the right build combination I can still see it getting some use in harder difficulties.
Less so in Hardcore where a minor mistake could lead to perma death.
With a proper setup of snares with a high output of dmg I can see this being perfectly viable.

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#12 Posted 20 February 2012 - 07:08 AM By Shiva

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yeah my guess is that many will underestimate the higher levels of hell and inferno, but more inferno!!!

i'm gonna stay on normal for at least 2 runs before proceeding!
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#13 Posted 20 February 2012 - 07:23 AM By Araloth

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I don't think it's that bad... right? I mean if you go play solo i can see why it would not be a good passive... But if you are in a group i think it's pretty nice dealing some more damage

#14 Posted 20 February 2012 - 07:38 AM By muser11

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View PostAraloth, on 20 February 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

I don't think it's that bad... right? I mean if you go play solo i can see why it would not be a good passive... But if you are in a group i think it's pretty nice dealing some more damage

Agree with Araloth..where is the problem if u make +% extra dmg when u play in group?
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#15 Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:25 AM By Kermanach

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You can not always avoid damage, this skill is a liability for the group. If you get 1 shotted you just failed your group. A dead wizard has no dps. I doubt you'll see this skill in higher difficulties.

#16 Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:07 AM By jamaikas

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i dont know.. in my opinion that can work in a higher difficult

#17 Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:22 AM By Kalzin

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Glass Cannon can work well on higher difficulties but probably not without a party to protect you and tank for you. You would still need to be careful and I doubt it will be highly used in hardcore.

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#18 Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:45 AM By KurtRussell

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quick reflexes will be a must in hc

#19 Posted 20 February 2012 - 02:05 PM By Dwierst

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View PostKurtRussell, on 20 February 2012 - 10:45 AM, said:

quick reflexes will be a must in hc

Indeed!  It's all or nothing, might as well have some extra dps :-)

#20 Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:27 PM By rabidshrew

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The fact that they nerfed glass cannon makes me think that it will be viable, even late game.  The trade off must not have been costly enough before.  It seems to me like 20% extra damage all the time will be pretty sick, you just have to be good at avoiding hits.  It's all going to come down to individual play style.